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#spoofy-goofs

Lepidópterus
That means we share a common ancestor with viruses that used dna
Lepidópterus
Which means they should be consudered alive
Lepidópterus
Because to leave them out is just, weird then
Feder373
Life is defined by the ability to perform the three vital functions: nutrition, relation, and reproduction. Machines can't do the three, and relation is not in their nature, it's 100% programmed by a third live being. And no, life is absolutely NOT defined by consciousness. Otherwise, people in coma would be considered dead. Ps: viruses cannot do the 3 functions, so they're no life
Filip5011
with enough knowledge from multiple humans, yes. But one humans knowledge into AI brains can't develop something that will learn anything or everything
Lepidópterus
Old concepts
Lepidópterus
I agree that consciousness has nothing to do tho
Lepidópterus
This is very inflexible as a definition though
Lepidópterus
When it already doesnt work for organisms we share ancestry with, there is something fishy
Feder373
We share ancestry with bacteria, not viruses. Viruses are probably even younger than humans
Filip5011
Viruses aren't truly alive, they can't reproduce themselves, but need the help of other cells in an organism by taking control of them and releasing their RNA and multiplying in that cell
Lepidópterus
How do you explain viruses using rna and dna then
Lepidópterus
Those structures are too complex to have developed twice in the same planet
Lepidópterus
Parasites are a joke to you?
Filip5011
yes
Lepidópterus
They cant reproduce without hosts either
Feder373
They're just combined proteins and lipids that casually took molecules of RNA and DNA from other cells
Lepidópterus
Are you sure of that
Lepidópterus
Life did not suddenly appear in the complexity of a bacterium
Filip5011
Algae formed and evolved into further life